okay, so i have a black thumb. i know this, but i still try. some varmints were eating all of our veggies that we planted, so dave built a cage to go over it. that seems to be keeping the varmints out, but the veggies are growing...ever...so...slowly. maybe we don't get enough sun? or they have some disease? who knows, but i'm trying! i want to eat at least one thing out of the garden damn it. lets just look at the other side of our yard. and what do we have? beautiful sedum that is flowering. it's the only fall flowering plant i have, and i love it.